Lee Clark is Killing the Club

Big words, a controversial topic, but it seems to me that bcfc is in rapid decline. As much as I love Pannu, the question-marks over the ownership of the club is casting a hanging shadow over St Andrews and, while you might say that nothing is new here, we no longer have the dizzy heights of European football, the sexy football of Chris Hughton, or quite simply any sense of direction or gameplan as a team. The fans can feel it; staying away in the masses, and the players can sense it when they walk out to an empty stadium. In times like this we need a strong manager, a man who can galvanize the team, and yet who do we have? Lee Clark. A man with the public interview skills of Steve Kean, the tactial awareness of the average toddler and a supply of chewing gum that not even Fergie can match.

Our club is falling, the foundations are starting to crack, and yet we have no-one to lead the recovery. This season has seen us reach new lows, public embarassment on Sky TV TWICE, record attendance lows and a worryingly ever increasing sense of apathy. To me, this season is becoming more of a chore than a passion, like I am watching out of habit and hope rather than any true sense of excitement. No football fan can claim any sense of genuine enthusiasm to the thought of seeing the likes of Hayden Mullins and Darren Ambrose, ambling around a football pitch - half-drunk like - with no apparent sense of direction or understanding.

I am genuinely worried for the future of BCFC is change isn't made soon; there are reports of new ownership, but there has been for the past year now, and Carson trial is yet still ongoing. Our accounts are delayed and we have a man in charge who for the first time in my Bluenose life i have no belief that he can turn it around. We are fast becoming a laughing stock in English football, and it is painful. Clark needs to change things, sort out whatever issues he has with certain players, or if not the get the fuck out of this football club.

But I feel it is too late, football fans are fickle and quick to turn on people. Once the knives and pitchforks are out it is oh-so difficult to change their minds. Look at Steve Kean at Blackburn, booed off the pitch after winning games, look at Keith Fahey victimised for being played out of position by McLeish and yet still Lowdham dislikes him. I struggle to see how Clark can turn this around, he'll need big results and fast but I doubt any Blues fan could see that happening. He needs to go before things get any worse, or by the end of the season we may well be looking at 4 figure attendances

Clark Out

Lee Clark is Killing The Club ?

I would say..

Lee Clark & Peter Pannu are Killing The Club


kro

bluenosekev wrote:Lee Clark is Killing The Club ?

I would say..

Lee Clark & Peter Pannu are Killing The Club


kro

I would say its lots of things. Pannu isn't one of them, if it wasn't for him we'd be 10 points lighter this year.

I'd say its as follows, in this order

Yeung, by far the top reason.
The club isn't attractive enough to sell to someone who could pull us out of this mud. WE NEED CHANGE!
Clark, unable to get the best from players
The Players, freezing at home. Lack of passion. FFS how many times yesterday did they back out of tackles????????? Including the messiah Redmond!!!
Support, first wayward pass yesterday and the boos started. Players got nervous about making mistakes, its a vicious circle.

Raters wrote:

bluenosekev wrote:Lee Clark is Killing The Club ?

I would say..

Lee Clark & Peter Pannu are Killing The Club


kro

The Players, freezing at home.

Its not just at home tho we were Rubbish up at Sheffield Wednesdy & Watford as well, then there was Cov away in the cup.

We are rubbish home & away Full stop.


kro

'Killing the club' is a little over the top, but he does seem out of his depth somewhat.
Bring back Trevor Francis, I say.

No good keep clamouring for new owners, that could take ages. TF may have his limitations at managerial level, but at this level he's a fine manager. It would get the fans onside at least, and the players too I would think.

Anyway, what's Lowdham doing getting into scrapes at his age? Think of the dry cleaning bill for that yellow jacket.

I've been sitting on the fence about my decision on Clark, but after yesterday my mind is made up. He has to go, and soon. No ability to get players motivated, Poor tactics. I don't think he's played the same starting line up two games running, which probably means he doesn't know his best team. I know he's got injury problems, but.

His post match interviews are bloody terrible. He doesn't seem to know what we can all see. His players don't appear to know one another. Passes going astray (long or short) and can't keep the ball.

Man of the match. Butland the goalkeeper, and we lost at home. Probably true. What a joke.

The big problem though. Is. Who of any quality would replace him and come to the club with the current ownership in place?

Good post this which I agree with 100% courtesy of Rob Harris...Cheers Rob..

"In the summer Birmingham City cashed in & let our manager go to Norwich purely for money,& replaced him with a talentless manager from a lower division who was out of work & cost nothing,purely for money...now attendances are down Birmingham City want us the fans to back the club with our money week in week out,why should we????you did'nt back us with your money!!!!I did'nt renew our 3 season tickets at a cost of over £900 & after these poor results i'm bloody glad i did'nt. So Birmingham City until you back us don't have the cheek to expect us to back you the way you have run our club is a disgrace if you want our money put your money where your mouth is & get us a manager,the bloke you got for free who was unemployed was unemployed for a reason,he's no good!!!! No idea mean's no point's mean's no fan's in the ground mean's no money for you lot so Mr Pannu if your such an astute business man it's time to show it!!!!!!!!!!!"

Ta Rob...above ^^^

Ive said all along Peter Pannu was only interested in the money for Chris Hughton and made no attempt to keep him thinking he could take the money and get any Tom, Dick or Harry in to manage BCFC, and we ended up with Lee fekking Clark..

Thoughts ?

bluenosekev wrote:Good post this which I agree with 100% courtesy of Rob Harris...Cheers Rob..

"In the summer Birmingham City cashed in & let our manager go to Norwich purely for money,& replaced him with a talentless manager from a lower division who was out of work & cost nothing,purely for money...now attendances are down Birmingham City want us the fans to back the club with our money week in week out,why should we????you did'nt back us with your money!!!!I did'nt renew our 3 season tickets at a cost of over £900 & after these poor results i'm bloody glad i did'nt. So Birmingham City until you back us don't have the cheek to expect us to back you the way you have run our club is a disgrace if you want our money put your money where your mouth is & get us a manager,the bloke you got for free who was unemployed was unemployed for a reason,he's no good!!!! No idea mean's no point's mean's no fan's in the ground mean's no money for you lot so Mr Pannu if your such an astute business man it's time to show it!!!!!!!!!!!"

Ta Rob...above ^^^

Ive said all along Peter Pannu was only interested in the money for Chris Hughton and made no attempt to keep him thinking he could take the money and get any Tom, Dick or Harry in to manage BCFC, and we ended up with Lee fekking Clark..

Thoughts ?

The reality is we're skint.

The guy who was funding us is in jail with his assets frozen. There is no money, gates are going down which means there's less money. Its a circle we're in and people not going add to it i'm afraid. Not having a go at the stay aways, i fully understand. But we can't moan about money issue's when we're part of the ever growing issue. Sad but true.

evergreen blue wrote:



The big problem though. Is. Who of any quality would replace him and come to the club with the current ownership in place?

Herin lies the problem. No money, no focus, dwindling crowds, the black cloud grows ever bigger above St Andrews. I know i keep saying it, its become a ever decreasing circle...

We need a change ASAP And for me, the change we need to most is owners, followed by manager.

bluenoseghag wrote: Lee Clark. A man with the public interview skills of Steve Kean, the tactial awareness of the average toddler and a supply of chewing gum that not even Fergie can match.


Clark Out

Welcome aboard ghag.

bluenoseghag wrote:

look at Keith Fahey victimised for being played out of position by McLeish and yet still Lowdham dislikes him.

I don't wish to hijack the topic ghag - but that statement is not correct. I think he has limitations - tackling and ball-winning - and so should not be played in a rigid 442. He needs a more dynamic midfied and a "hard man" ball-winner alongside him. He is a bit like Scholes who is a passer and shooter but can't defend/tackle. Scholes had Roy Keane most of his career and had a dynamic midfield and not a rigid 442.

....back to topic. CLARK OUT

lowdham bluenose wrote:

bluenoseghag wrote:

look at Keith Fahey victimised for being played out of position by McLeish and yet still Lowdham dislikes him.

I don't wish to hijack the topic ghag - but that statement is not correct. I think he has limitations - tackling and ball-winning - and so should not be played in a rigid 442. He needs a more dynamic midfied and a "hard man" ball-winner alongside him. He is a bit like Scholes who is a passer and shooter but can't defend/tackle. Scholes had Roy Keane most of his career and had a dynamic midfield and not a rigid 442.

....back to topic. CLARK OUT

Fair point Lowds, was just trying to think of some evidence to back up a point and that's the first thing i though of

And unfortunately i have to agree with Evergreen, as long as the club is being sold he will stay as manager; the current lot won't want to waste their money to sack him, and Lee Clark won't want to leave because he'll think new owners is a chance of a fresh start and some transfer kitty to waste on more past it players